:huh: [FONT=Times] I wonder why when I walk into a tavern , people fear me. I think its a great thing to be a vampiress. They have great responsiabilty and power.

*steps out of the shadows* Humans fear what they cannot control. I am a human, soon to be a vampire, and a witch. Humans fear witches as well, it is hard to keep our lives secrets from them. Some witches on the other hand like to tell people what they are..sometimes just to stir up trouble. But this isnt about witches. So like i said before, they fear what they cannot control.

...So you are saying you are not Human?

Interesting. I did not think this was that kind of board.

Dont worry NV generally its not. :D

i think its great being different and as someone said earlier people are afraid of what they dont understand and they hate what they fear so that will put you in a minority they aint willing to try to understand .most people tend to like the norm makes them feel safe.hope i've helped

Actually Night, im not sure what i am anymore. Although i do know that soon i will be a vampire..but for now, im just me. Trying to survive as an out cast. Like it or not.

You know I am going to have to say that this is probably one of the most inconvenient posts for a newcomer that I have ever seen. People aren't afraid of you because you are a vampire, they can't tell that just by looking at you! You either give off some bad vibe or they just really don't like to be near you. Heck even if you are gorgously beautiful or distrubingly handsome some people are going to not like you so except it and finally, you aren't a vampire, you are a person who either has a mental instability or just a dumb reason to try blood.

Yeah, and pointless posts about how the post is for post count increasing...that I can reply to so I can increase my own post count. :lol:

As to the original question:

1. I'd be afraid of a resurrected corpse that wants to drink my blood.
2. You aren't a resurrected corpse that wants to drink my blood...so you aren't and never will be a vampire...

yeah, people don't like you because your wacked... If I was a vampire, and wanted to steam about this, I would be at the whore alley on a drinking spree. Or I might just be quietly contemplating by myself in my quiet crypt, sipping on imported virgin blood.

either way: I wouldn't come here sounding like a whiny kid.

and another point, people would fear vampires if they exists BECAUSE VAMPIRES WILL DRINK THEIR BLOOD AND KILL THEM.!! I do very much like not being dead, but if you don't I know better ways to achieve a more complete state of deadness than vampirism.

And what kind of boards would THAT be? One with an understanding and ability to rise beyond whatever physical forms we take to see one's true self?
Would one of THOSE kinds of boards also include little to nil when it comes to tolerance of closed minds?
How about open mindedness, is that a side effect of those pesky boards you seem to be turning your nose up at?

Then yes dear, you have found yourself in one of THOSE kind of forums. -_-

And we like it this way.

Sorry, forgot to address the original topic. Number one I have to say I understand why this thread got flamed so badly, When you walk in a tavern people fear you huh? And would that be AOL member made rooms or some random vampire gardens? You sound like another bothersome newbie/rpg infatuant. If that's what you are about, author of this thread, I feel sorry for you because someone on here will have a mighty big wake up call for you. Now the question was why do people fear vampires. I believe someone with some negative points did mention something useful, humans don't normally have the ability to sense a vampire's presense, we are as a whole to intuned to our known five senses to allow for any growth in the other fields. Plainly humans and their blessed ignorance save them from much awareness.
However if one is more sensitive to aura and energy amd so on, that might note something about a vampire that they can't quite put their finger on. They may feel anxious or inexplicably drawn to said vampire.
A good argument for people's fear of vampires is the mythology involved, halloween is a night of fright including goblins ghosts witches and that's right! vampires. who take your betrothed and turn her into a sucubbus.... [like daphne and Lucy....]
Now if we are talking about psychic vampires, it's simple, Attacks are not fun, anyone who's ever experienced an intentional rape feeding can tell you that.

unless you're flaunting it, people probably aren't scared of you

But if you aren't flaunting it, the humans would think the vampire is a human!(confused yet? :D )

To Seana.

I find it interesting you have chosen to flame my post when there are others which would give you much more to sink your teeth, sorry, 'fangs' into. I suppose new people make the best targets.

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And what kind of boards would THAT be? One with an understanding and ability to rise beyond whatever physical forms we take to see one's true self?

I wouldn't call it understanding, I would call it more a panacea for of loss of identity, but that's MY opinion. I was under the impression the board was about vampires, and that posts such as the author's went into a specially created section for those who consider themselves real, I didn't think that was the philosophy of the whole board.

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How about open mindedness

You should judge a person on more than one post before accusing them of being closed-minded.

Plus I am not your 'Dear'.

I don't choose my outbursts they choose. I apologize but the feeling I got from your post hit a nerve. I'm sure you'll find half the people around the boards don't even believe in vampires. Incidently, I never claimed to be a vampire. Far from it. B)
And I didn't know you were new, I tend to frequent too many boards to recognize how long people have beenhere. Welcome to the boards then, hope you enjoy the slightly varying opinions. {To tell you the truth I don't feel so strongly about this forum, it has gone down hill a bit. I honestly thought I was posting elsewhere, didn't realize until the message was sent. But I still stand by it. :D



why is your opinion one of loss and not possibly enlightenment? just wondering, if you feel like elaborating I'd be happy to read it. Indeed the board is about vampires, it seems a newbie quality to put posts in the wrong places...that should be handled by the mods. But what I am stuck on is this philosophy of the whole boards.. I would think a general cut out of what vampires are and what exists would make this place kind of boring. The admin seems to {not attacking} frown upon entertaining the idea of some types of vampires... but maybe I do not understand your meaning. Again if you have the time to discuss so do I. B)




I didn't accuse, you surmised from my text that I thought you were close minded. I must admit I do tend to make snap judgements,.... working on that, besides I hope to change my mind about you and honestly look forward to further conversations.


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everyone is dear to me. You'll get used to it.

~Seana

Ok, thanks for taking the time to expand on things.

I had a self-expression screw-up somewhere, and it's too complicated to unravel.

No hard feelings.

LOL!!! :lol: That was really funny!!! :lol: People are afraid of what? :D

At the risk of being flamed, I'd say it's because they think "Uh oh, here comes another of those Goth Kids."

All they're thinking buddy is, "ANOTHER Hot Topic refugee?! Gosh darnit... get the shotgun out of the trailer, Pa. We're going to be eatin' some goth teens tonight."

LMFAO!!!!

oh lawdy lawdy hayuv mercy awn meuh!

I tend to be scared of freaks myself.

One last note to the vampiress...>Don't flatter yourself, my dear. It doesn't go well with your make-up. Goths aren't supposed to feel good about themselves. :P :lol:

I'm freaked out by them too!
I was in Giant Supermarket once with my friend Ashley, and we were checking out the videos on the racks, and then this goth kid walks by decked out in all this black and chains and such. And Ashley made a comment really quiet to me and I just snickered, then, we walked outside and sat on the bench, then, what do you know, the goth kid walks right up to us and goes, "Sam?!"
And I went. "DREW?!"
:lol:

I wouldn't call her a goth so much as an RPG fan. Big difference. dressing in black, pretending to be invisable and doing so simply to be part of Marilyn Mansons lunchbox gang does not make you gothic. It's an understanding a state of mind and as Upir explains about vampirism is an existence not a career choice.

Enough attacking the newbie though seriously, you people should know better, read the rules. She'll learn or she'll be banned it's that simple.

Vampiress: You have found an out of character board, please treat it as such.

Wait...so you're telling me that she doesn't REALLY think she's a vampire? She's just that into some RPG? Cause if that's the case...well, I could recant a bit.

I find the nonsense of 'psychic rape' way more objectionable than anything else mentioned in this thread.

If you knew a woman who had actually been raped, trust me, you would know what I'm talking about.

Please bring on the flames about how terrible a crime 'psychic rape' is. That way I can feel even more discusted than I do now.

um. are you on the same topic as the rest of us? :D

Because people fear what they do not understand.

SweetNightmares

i too have felt the fierce and intense hatred of mortals. as a witch, i get it all the time. humans fear the unknown. if they can't understand it, they hate it. and vampires and witches are symbols of darkness.

Uh...I've never heard of the non-human Witch. I always thought they were humans with advanced knowledge and/or powers.

I don't mean to be rude but do you eat, drink, sleep, shit, procreate and have awareness of your own mortality? Those are my criteria for being human/mortal and I imagine you fulfil most if not all of them.

You only think you've felt such hatred because you feel alone and you feel like you are being picked on if things don't go your way in life. It sounds to me like both of you need to get a grip on reality. You've been watching too many movies. Like NightVision said you probably fit the criteria of being a mortal. And if not then what else could you be? Immortal? Yeah, right, and I'm Count Dracula. You can be whatever you want in your mind, but take it to your friends in the white suites. And even so, why would a vampire or a witch feel the need to get online and brag about it? To me, all you are trying to do is look like you are better than everyone else, but the truth is you're not. So just face it and get on with your life already.

SweetNightmares

I am in reality, i face it everyday. Yes it is true i am alone, depressed, hell you name it ive probably felt it...but me thinking i am better than everyone is not true. Nor i bragging. I listen to people like you every single day of my life telling me waht supposedly real and what isnt. Imnot in the mood to fight..maybe some other time hun. And CONTESS, im glad to finally see another witch on the board. IM me sometime k? angeltears919@yahoo.com *turns and walks out trying to control temper* Merry meet and god bless...

Hm, and what is your reality?

SweetNightmares

Well, I can say as a "newbie" I got quite a laugh at many of these posts. hehe Anyway, I see many are lost in reality. I am a "witch," if I must be classified. I do not believe a "vampire" real or imagined can also be a "witch." Especially in Wicca, which is a solid foundation of craft not lunacy. However, to the post of why people fear vampires...isn't that one obvious?

as long as we're talking about witches, how do you define yourself as a witch? what qualities.

okay, when i say mortality, i mean normal. sheesh, somebody needs a chill pill, stat!

and i don't think you need qualities to be a witch. i sensed the call. witchcraft isn't just spells and chants, it's about seeing a bloody great big picture. i was a witch for four years before i realised it.

I don't know if Vampriess really belives she is a vampire hell for all I know she could be, but she surely needs some enlightenment about what a non rpg vampire is. Maybe she's a life-r -_-

And I don't know where the topic of Psychic rape comes in but Georgia, been there done that, survived it... don't wanna do it again. Physical rape is a far uglier thing than Psychic in my opinion but both cause damage to your person, your state of mind and your sense of security. Both are acts unwillingly put into action and the rapist, no matter what form they take, is still a piece of shit.
One form happens to be physical and yes they have differing after effects, but both are invasive and wrong.

Kinda on topic:
What do you think would happen if the masses were forced to realize the existence of otherkin and had to deal with it? Like X men.

They'd try to stamp them out. Look at what the masses do to homosexuals, for Christ's sake, and they're human.

This is true. Mankind has a long glorious history of persecuting the 'different'. But from that simple fact you can surmise if you deliberately go out to make yourself 'different'...you're going to get trouble and you're naive if you don't expect it. I'm not saying it's RIGHT.

Normal? Hm...and what is defined as normal? I don't believe there is such a thing as normal. And, if anyone needs to take a chill pill it's you because I am not yelling, I am simply asking a question. You seem to get on the defensive quite easily when someone questions you.

SweetNightmares

Doesn't she though?

Very simple really......were diffrent. Now of coarse were just another breed of human but they dont realize that and are ignorent [unlearned] of us. Now seeing that they ignorent [unlearned] of us then they dont know about us [duh] and they naturally fear what they dont know.

Why do you think theyre so scared of the dark???

Indeed. They all do.

SweetNightmares

humans are afraid of anything outside there tiny little box.

anything that dose not flow with the morals,and standards of the majority will be seen as evil,insane, or bogus.

Mortals fear death. They have little ability to grasp the concept of anything so powerful and intense as a vampire, and confronted with it...they just don't do well. They deny or run.

Ok first off ~A~ and Jessica need to take themselves a chill pill and play nice. There's no reason to be throwing out names, it looks ugly on the boards and colors you guys infantile. So let's discuss without the name calling ok?

Secondly We are not all so blind darkgoddess. I am what I am and I have made my peace with death it does not scare me. Nor do vampires. Although I have to sadly agree that the general population is without understanding and in that ignorance breeds fear. But Humans as a race are seeming to get some what better at recognizing somethings that are yet to be explained in ways they understand. Meditation Reiki crystals and stones are everywhere. It is no longer taboo to discuss psychic ability and astral projection. If such a large chunk of the population can handle that... how far away are we from an awareness of other existences? Just rambling...

Remember Play Nice. {If I can manage to hold my tongue I'm sure you guys can give it a whirl. Discuss the concept don't attack the person} :P

Did this just turn into the new RP forum? *runs off into the night swinging arms wildly while drinking virgins fat free blood, and howling to the full moon while contemplating his Angel-Demon bloodline and desiring to kill of all humanity*

didn't think so... sorry guys but I don't know of many people who were confronted with vampires to actually make the call to deny/run secondly you seem to be missing the complete core group of people who want to believe vampires exist and lastly why is it that vampires are so afraid of showing there existance? are they afraid of death as much as us MORTALS??? thats the only reason to hide. If vampires like you were so unafraid of death and better than mortals then why haven't you come out of the woodworks to claim this world as your own?
Anything that appreciates its existance fears its non-existance. Some of us have come to terms with it or have the personal belief (like me) of some spiritual after-existance.
Either or this still doesn't excuse the childish hiding of this superior race. Or do vampires fear humans??? now thats the real interesting question since well I don't see us hiding from them.

ooo nice point Sigma. Though that'd suck for a vamp to be afraid of humans... I mean feeding (at least off of humans) would be hard.

But as for fearing death. HELL YES I AM AFRAID OF DEATH. I'm not afraid enough to make sure my life had the lowest possiblity of ending soon to the point of taking over my life. But I am very fond of the my life (especially since, in my view, there is nothing after this.) and I don't intend to lose it. If I find myself losing my place in the world, and that I've accomplished everything I wanted to, then I'll accept death as the inventable... and as part of the cycle of life.

But as an example contrary to the last point is my late grandmother. She was 84, and still had a sharp mind, and enojyed life and her family, it was only from her body failing that she left... True she had accomplished many of her life goals, but she still wasn't read to leave. She still wanted to enjoy life as much as possible.

yes, only fools (suicidals included) aren't afraid of death. It's a natural instinct, and a good one, since it helps work towards keeping ourselves alive.

~*~smoothly slides over to Sweet and hands her a valium... :D

Damn. Ok I won't say anything other than deep cleansing breaths..
I have no fear of death because I have absolute faith in what comes next. I understand. I also appreciate the time have here in this life as it exists. The world around me and the people in my life. But I know in my heart this is not the end but another step in the preparation. I don't know if it's clear and frankly I don't care. I am of sound mind and judgement and do not hold any labels of vampire or other. People are mistaking me for anything more than an enlightened human being. I'm on a path to understand.. that does not make me any different from everyone else because I am that too, just one of the masses.
just so we are clear on that. ^_^

I don't think vampires are afraid of humans. I can't remember where I posted a point similar to this but:
What if it isn't that vampires hide but humans aren't perceptive enough to note the difference or if they do explain it away?

I do not name call. I simply state what is true of most. Of course there are exceptions as there are to virtually every fact, every rule, everything...If I say "you" I do not address you personally or attack you personally, I am merely sharing my view on your race as a whole, on those who are not as I am. Humans, yes, are given far to little credit...
As for their new found "acceptance" - they would not have arrived there themselves. It is as the new sexual revolution, the "liberation" of women is. It must be accepted because the media now bases so much upon it. Spend an hour with Charmed or Buffy the Vampire Slayer, and slowly one begins to accept that which entertains him or her.
I have no intention of offending anyone. I merely answered a question.

Hey man, you have no idea how hard it is to connect various sexual scenes with bad acting.... yeah... ALthough I did see one with a plot and NO disco. It was like the labriyth. Nice.
Darn you making me roam the gutter side of my mind. Back on track and On topic.
Maybe we can lose the original topic and go from there since it is obviously too dead to bring back.
Is there a possibility as someone brought up, that vampires could in turn fear people? Not the way people fear the unknown but fear of exposure?

I would agree that vampires are not phobic towards the human race since they must feed however I would say that if they exhist, many or at least a majority large enough to keep them in line exists in fear of what would happen if humans knew of there existance. We may portay them as more powerful reclusive beings but remember, You only hide what you fear being seen. Maybe they realize that if they were exposed we would indefinately destroy them.