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Narcissa
don't believe in 'em, but in the vampire chronicles by anne rice, it is said that once one becomes a vampire, they lose their ability to see ghosts, but then david and quinn can still see them and i think Armand could to or something. anyhoo, i want some info on this other than what can be found in an anne rice novel. but i don't mind if anyone points anything out which is said in one of her books, i just don't want this to turn into an anne rice topic like umm ya know what i mean.... sorry if anybody has difficult in understanding me, i go to an all arabic school and take ESL even though english was my first language.... off topic lol.
suicidal-dream
i am pretty sure that they cant see ghosts i always thought it was like if you were a human and you had esp then you would have it when you was a vampire but as you said in anne rice when jesse became a vamp she couldnt see her mum anymore. sorry to mention anne rice but i had too. but i dont know anything of dracula seeing ghosts in bram stokers dracula so i suppose if differs on what you read.
Dante
I haven't read much on the correlation of vampires and ghosts. I suppose some believe that when you turn into a vampire you can't see spirits that are still part of the good in the world, ie-ghosts that are here because of love or to warn someone of something. This is because vampires are supposed to be cursed to be in darkness.

By the same token, I suppose a vampire could still see evil spirits since they exist in the same darkness. This is just pure speculation on my part, though. Maybe someone has actually read some research done on this subject.
Draquilas
I believe that vampires can see ghosts. If there were such things as vampires, why would their senses be impared in the first place from seeing these. I don't understand the fairness of this at all. And who in the world says vampires aren't allowed anyway! Other then Anne Rice who then is redundant in her books. ::rubs forehead:: I don't understand these things too well but I write about them anyways right? So if I am mentally impared in a sense, why can I still keep typing away at this computer. By the way I am not saying I have mental problems but I have a bad sense of writing, if I don't pay attention, I tend to be uncontrollably cruel.

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Draq
suicidal-dream
i think thats a good point draq that cos all your others senses heighten why cant you see ghosts hadnt really thought of it like that.
Draquilas
::winks:: either do I usually, that was one of my times when I wasn't thinking and my fingers just happened to be typing away for me, or I was just distracted.

Thanks
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Draq
suicidal-dream
well maybe you should do more of it cos you seem to be coming out with good ideas
Draquilas
::laffs:: Thanks I'll do that. ;)
suicidal-dream
hhmmm who knew not thinking could do you so much good....... anyway maybe vampires cant see ghosts because they are not dead or alive really so they cant see those who have died because they never will.
Horrormoviefreak
Vampires can't see ghosts, because vampires aren't real. :lol:
But if we're talking about fiction, then hey, it depends on the book/movie/etc. Or your imagination. ^_^
Narcissa
yeah, i know they aren't real, but i just want to understand why wouldn't they, ya know?
Draquilas
See its a good question and I'm not really sure why too many people haven't responded to this one. Maybe they just don't think vampires should but then again yeah, why not think bluntly of ghosts and then see them, if they can connect mentally with the living then maybe they can connect mentally with the dead.
Horrormoviefreak
Well that's basically what I'm saying. Since vampires aren't real, we have no idea if they'd see ghosts or not. That's what I meant by it being your imagination, obviously.
Nemesis Chylde
It seems to me that IF vampires were real, then perhaps they wouldn't see ghosts due to their separate planes of existence. Vampires are 'undead', and so are ghosts, however, ghosts reside on a different plane. Humans and vampires, however, do reside on the same plane, to a degree, you have to figure in that vampires seem to sort of live half in and half out. Is any of this making any sense??? blink.gif wacko.gif

Anyway. I don't see why they wouldn't be, but...
Draquilas
Good point, see if they are both dead then why can't ghosts speak with their dead friends the vampires? I mean heck humans speak with gorillas through signlanguage we and we really are both of a same nature, living.
suicidal-dream
i think it actually would be a good idea if vamps could talk to ther dead friends as you know other vamps that died would still be with them for example cludia talking to louis. sorry if i have confused anyone.
I am your reflection
i think that everyone can see ghosts. in a lot of people, that alent just might be dormant, and if something big happens-vampire, serious (could have died) injury, head injury, etc. that the talent may be awakened. mellow.gif
suicidal-dream
that seems to happen to alot of people there were some extreme cases i was reading about were people had gone through horrific ordeals can see ghosts others claim to have telekinetic powers but i dont know how reliable that is . soz i am going of subject
Night Krawler
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hhmmm who knew not thinking could do you so much good....... anyway maybe vampires cant see ghosts because they are not dead or alive really so they cant see those who have died because they never will.
by suicidal dream

If vamps cant see ghosts because they arent really dead then why can they see humans because they arent really alive either...
SweetNightmares
Can vampires see ghost? Hm...I believe they can. Why not? I would think if anything they would be more sensitive to the presence of ghosts. I wonder...if legend says that vampires don't have souls then if they die they can't be ghost? Then if a close vampire friend of theirs died, they wouldn't be able to see them? I don't know if I am making much sense here, but I am trying to explain my thoughts as clearly as I possibly can. Of course everyone has a different oppinion about vampires and I believe there are different types and all of that sort.

SweetNightmares
suicidal-dream
i mean it as they have been alive so they can see humans but they'll never die so they cant see whos dead sorry if it doesnt make sense to anyone else but it did to me.
Morwyn
I haven't got to far into Anne Rice's new book Blackwood Farm but from what I have read I get the since that Lestat cannot see Quinn's spirit Goblin but maybe he does sense him?
Draquilas
maybe ^_^
Marcus
Maybe Vampires in the story couldnt see Ghosts because ghosts are souls and Vampires have no soul?

I remember a roleplay game I used to have the rulebook for, Demons (who were powerful souls in another plane of existence) couldnt "see" anything without a soul or individuals whos soul had been magically shielded.

Thats my tuppence.
contessabathory
i would have thought that vampires could see ghosts, since they are both supernatural and all that jazz. B) i guess it all depends on what the vampire personally believes. <_<
suicidal-dream
maybe its a power the aquire over time for example the younger vampires cant go in the sun but the very old ones can. i think its a good a theory as any.
contessabathory
QUOTE (suicidal-dream @ Dec 2 2003, 03:08 PM)
younger vampires cant go in the sun but the very old ones can.

wow. there's something i didn't know. thanks for the knowledge.
Narcissa
QUOTE (contessabathory @ Dec 4 2003, 03:10 AM)
QUOTE (suicidal-dream @ Dec 2 2003, 03:08 PM)
younger vampires cant go in the sun but the very old ones can.

wow. there's something i didn't know. thanks for the knowledge.

well, actually, once the sun comes up they get drousy and fall asleep, so they can't really ever go into the sun... i mean, the older ones might not die, but they still would fall asleep and might get a bit of a sun tan....lol
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